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Originally Posted by DiracSpike
Ok, well...we don’t live in a world 100% free of rapists and assault era. Never have, never will. I’m sure you felt really good writing this and others felt good thanking it but blank proselytizing won’t help protect future victims. In fact, the devotion to not talking at all about what women can do to protect themselves will ensure more victims. Don’t let that stop you from feeling good about yourself though.
If I ever have a daughter I’ll tell her getting drunk and going to a hotel room with a stranger is a bad idea. Not much good can come of it and it exposes you to a lot of risk. Does that mean you deserve to be raped? Absolutely not. Does that mean these guys shouldn’t go to jail? No, they should, and it should be a very long and public sentence which is the only effective thing you can do to dissuade this behaviour.
If you wanna hang your hat on “consent courses” and “teaching” to stop this from happening...you’re gonna be waiting a long time. Forever, in fact. The rest of us will operate in reality.
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I don't feel good, actually. I feel terrible. I've had SA (not of me) blow up my life in the last six months. This news story has preoccupied my day and I'm not doing well.
And you know what? It wasn't the victim's fault. They were in a romantic relationship with the person who SAed them. What precautions were they supposed to take there? Was it how they were dressed? Maybe too drunk? Shouldn't have gone to that bar?
The mere idea that part of the explanation for what happened here was something the victim did is a part -- not the whole thing, but a part -- of why SA is so rampant.
Sure, you can teach people how to avoid danger. We can walk and chew gum on this. But is that what we should be talking about IN THIS THREAD? TODAY? Why bring this up?