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Old 01-24-2024, 01:54 PM   #385
CliffFletcher
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I disagree.

The failure here is that there was a group of men who decided to commit sexual assault (allegedly). Educational messaging should tell at least one of those in the group to intervene and stop things before it became a criminal act. In my mind, this is abhorrent not because a single individual decided to rape someone, but because a group of men engaged in the act and not one of them said "hey, maybe this is a bad idea."

Messaging is not only about personal responsibility, but intervening when you see something wrong. More education WILL reduce things like this. The solitary predators may never go away, but if everyone is watching out for this #### wherever they are, those predators will lose opportunities to commit these crimes.
I’d be willing to bet they’d all heard educational messaging before. From what I understand, most junior programs have sexual consent training. Reports from the incident say at one point they even asked the victim to say if she consented. So it seems pretty likely they understood that consent is necessary. But presumably they were drunk and didn’t care she wasn’t capable of giving consent due to her own drunkeness or coercion. And of course they’re steeped in a sports culture where going against the team is unthinkable.
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