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Old 01-24-2024, 02:41 PM   #368
CliffFletcher
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Pretty ####ed up about society that we teach women this as opposed to teaching about consent (the presence of a yes, not just the absence of a no) and men not to engage in SA and feel entitled to other's bodies' though.
You can teach men not to feel entitled to others’ bodies and it will still happen. We teach men they shouldn’t rob people at knife-point, and violent robberies still happen. Some people are predators who deliberately use violence or coercion to take what they want. That’s not going to change with educational messaging.

And of course we have been teaching men about consent and sexual assault for a couple decades now. I’d wager all of the hockey players who are being charged in this have had some kind of consent training.

Having said that, there’s clearly someting pretty messed up with elite men’s sport culture and its norms around entitlement and sexual aggression. If anything good comes of this, it will be that it serves as a sobering lesson to younger hockey players that this kind of predatory pursuit of drunken women can ruin lives.
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