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Old 01-22-2024, 05:32 AM   #12792
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Originally Posted by curves2000 View Post
If Trump wins, does that put gigantic stain on the Democrats and on Joe Bidens legacy? The party and it's leadership could not convince a wildly unpopular President for not running, thus putting what they say is American democracy at stake?

If Joe Biden wins but becomes in essence, too old , ineffective, spending significant time in hospital, declining health and more, a stain on the Democrats and Joe Biden's legacy?

Short of Biden winning and being very effective for another 5 years, this screams risk for his legacy and for the Democrats.

Nixon stepped down after near certain impeachment, JFK was killed. If this doesn't go well for Biden, virtually all of America will look back on his Presidency and wonder what if? Buyers remorse.

If Trump wins, how do the Democrats and Biden actually look to millions of their voters and millions of American's who don't want Trump? The analysis afterwards will be we ****ed up worse than almost anybody else in history. How do they recover from that?

Fascinating all around
Biden needs to look at the polls and retire, Trump will smoke Biden because of the independents, Trump leads the polls by anywhere from 11-13 points with independents. Any other top democrat would destroy the orange goblin by 20-25 points with those voters, hopefully his inner circle can convince him to step away.

Let a Polis, Newsom or Shapiro beat up on Trump
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