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Originally Posted by Bingo

I'm with you Lurch .... and in no way have I suggested that more environmental processes not be pursued. I'm not pro pollution as I stated.

I just like the incentive programs to foster innovation more than the industry curtailments that could cause other economical problems.

If you keep this whole thing at that point I wouldn't have a problem ... but when hysteria gets added to it you get the planet dropping almost every other problem and running to the one issue to the detriment of others.

I just don't think the "science is [completely] in" and because of that we should slow down and take some time to make sure fear mongering going in either direction doesn't rule the day.

And Lanny ... point taken on the nat gas thing ... I wasn't trying to suggest that as a researched fact. I trade natural gas which gives me a myopic view of the product.

Just looked it up though ... Canada is 59% hydro, but the bigger picture, the US is 71.1% reliant on fossil fuels to generate electricity. They're just not ready to make that move. It's still wildly ineffecient. (Hydro only 6.5%). All numbers 2004 so obviously the ratios have changed.

At this point it's almost philosophical. You use terms like hysteria and science not being in and don't want to see havoc wreaked . Fair enough point of view.
I on the other hand use terms like head in sand, denial and vested interest. I'd rather see some havoc wreaked in economies than what I fear is already happening to the planet.
I don't know what other subject on this earth seems to require doubters (not a judgment but an accurate term no?) to have 100% buy in by all science/parties. Wasn't like that in Iraq for example, and Bingo, aren't you the person that in war, believes that you need to stir the pot? I remember your stance on Iraq, how it wasn't handled right, didn't go in for the right reasons, but still something should be stirred. (Hope I got the gist of what I remember). I guess you aren't really saying "do nothing" anyway. And that's the philosophical part, you're prepared to sit back a bit and do a few things, I think it's more crucial to be a bit zealous about it.