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Old 01-12-2024, 12:55 PM   #4082
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The standard of living and human progress globally has been absolutely incredible over the past hundred years, and astonishing in the last 50-60. We lift 130,000 people out of extreme poverty every day. Talk to your grandparents about their life and tell me that ours is not better in almost every single conceivable way.
My grandparents have all passed on unfortunately but without holding a seance I can tell you that they owned their homes that they lived in on a single blue collar income with their 4+ children who were all fed and were all able to very reasonably afford a post secondary education.

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In the 1930's, people would literally stave to death in this country and on this continent. I know that life is tough for some these days, but that doesn't happen today. The social safety net did not exist, and there is no question that the overall quality of everything from shelter and housing to our diets and availability of food has taken leaps and bounds forward.
Are you under the impression that suggesting things have gotten better for some means that things got better for everybody? Your argument is pretty flawed here because you’re basically suggesting that someone who under the same circumstances in previous generations would have been fairly well off and able to afford more isn’t worse off today because someone else who was way worse off in those previous generations is marginally better.

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On what metric are you suggesting things are worse for this generation or the one before us? I'm not trying to be obtuse here, but I can't think of a single thing that was better in the good old days of the 1920's or whatever.
Well first off it’s pretty funny to me that you keep using the 1920s and 1930s as reference points when arguing that the current generation(living in the year 2024) is doing better than the last but it’s a cold day so I appreciate the comical warmth your sense of humour brings with it. I’d 100% agree that life in the 60s was unquestionably better than it was in the 20s, partly because for so many people living in the 20s there was nowhere to go but up.
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