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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
So we all agree Hamas is evil and needs to be eliminated.
I think we can all agree that 100% of the deaths from the Oct 7th attacks are Hamas fault.
The civilian casualties due to retaliation of Oct 7th attacks are terrible. Hopefully we can all agree on that.
Who is really to blame for those casualties? If it wasn’t for Hamas attack on Oct 7th, the total number of Palestinian casualties would be 0.
I know some here question Israel tactics used to help defeat Hamas. But shouldn’t at least some of that blame be placed on Hamas? After all, they orchestrated the Oct 7th attack and are using Palestinians as human shields.
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I know this isn’t going to sound good to you, but I genuinely would like an answer to this. Your statement is clear that Israel holds no accountability for the deaths of Palestinians at this point due to the actions of Hamas on Oct 7. I don’t think I am mistaking that. If so correct me.
If the above is true, I want to know how long this lasts for you of if there are any reasonable limits to what you said? Is there a red line for you in what Israel is doing where you’d say it’s not proportional anymore?
The world has so few absolutes, the only absolute here is that the deaths of non combatants on both sides of this, many of whom are just there due to the randomness of the birth lottery is tragic.