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Old 01-12-2024, 06:03 AM   #4738
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In your mind didn't this rhetoric not exist prior to October 7? Will you change your stance if I show you similar statements from prior to October 7? What makes post October 7 statements less relevant than pre-October 7th statements?

Destroying a state is not considered genocide. The State of Israel is not the Jewish people. Also the liberation of Palestine can mean many things. It can include a palestinian state in Gaza and the West Bank along with full rights and equality for the Palestinians with Israeli citizenship, as well as a just solution for the refugees.
Aren't you also arguing that Israel taking over Gaza and giving the Palestinians the option to leave to somewhere else is genocide?

I don't think Hamas has in mind a flourishing Jewish majority Tel Aviv with 4 plus million people as part of their imagined state. Are they going to respect the rights of the hundreds of thousands of LGTBQ people who live there? Beyond their nationalist aspirations, Hamas also has religious goals. They are Sunnni Islamists who want to replace any secular or Jewish state with a Sunni state. The idea that Hamas is promoting some kind of multinational state with fair rights for all is absurd.

You don't need to support Israel in any way, to acknowledge that Hamas is awful.
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