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Bingo · 05-24-2007, 10:14 AM

Lanny ... you just can't keep going back to that arguing style.

I'm exposed to O and G so I'm biased and you're not. Showing hydro stats from Ontario doesn't change the fact that there is a serious inefficiency issue with electrical power right now and though it sounds nice, the in vs out ratio just doesn't provide enough energy if you take nat gas and coal out of the mix.

That has to change, and personally I think it will. But we can't turn off the lights and freeze to death in the meantime.

Nukes take up to 20 years true, but NIMBY is one of the main factors in why they take so long. Why do you think there is so much red tape? Because it's a safety issue for municipalities and a political issue for senators and governors. They all hang their hat on it.

Look at the silly gouging bill passed in the house this week (gasoline) politicians butter their bread by taking on energy companies, and that's why nukes don't get built.

I can't even comment on your final paragraph because it's all hysteria. If that was actually happening I'd be scared to death, and if it is as proven as you say I'll be on board completely. I work in energy trading but that doesn't mean I'm big on pollution.

As for the rest ... don't put words in my mouth. I'm not saying that anyone that believes the Al Gore Pulpit is stupid or foolish, I'm saying only looking at one side is foolish. And I don't even think people on either sides are necessarily biased, they are concerned. Some are out and out concerned about the environment, while others like me are concerned that it's being over stated and this over statement might hurt economies and funnel vast amounts of money away from areas that have more need.

As much as the Gore Camp says the "science is in" or "there is no more need for debate" I just keep seeing more and more scientists step forward with alternate theories or different numbers to ignore the fact that people might be putting the cart before the horse.

So don't label me bought and paid for because of where I work and I won't call you an open toed sandled hemp trading Suzuki lover.

No matter how this shakes out it's too important to limit discussion by just labeling.

05-24-2007, 10:14 AM	#118
Bingo Owner Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Calgary Exp:	Lanny ... you just can't keep going back to that arguing style. I'm exposed to O and G so I'm biased and you're not. Showing hydro stats from Ontario doesn't change the fact that there is a serious inefficiency issue with electrical power right now and though it sounds nice, the in vs out ratio just doesn't provide enough energy if you take nat gas and coal out of the mix. That has to change, and personally I think it will. But we can't turn off the lights and freeze to death in the meantime. Nukes take up to 20 years true, but NIMBY is one of the main factors in why they take so long. Why do you think there is so much red tape? Because it's a safety issue for municipalities and a political issue for senators and governors. They all hang their hat on it. Look at the silly gouging bill passed in the house this week (gasoline) politicians butter their bread by taking on energy companies, and that's why nukes don't get built. I can't even comment on your final paragraph because it's all hysteria. If that was actually happening I'd be scared to death, and if it is as proven as you say I'll be on board completely. I work in energy trading but that doesn't mean I'm big on pollution. As for the rest ... don't put words in my mouth. I'm not saying that anyone that believes the Al Gore Pulpit is stupid or foolish, I'm saying only looking at one side is foolish. And I don't even think people on either sides are necessarily biased, they are concerned. Some are out and out concerned about the environment, while others like me are concerned that it's being over stated and this over statement might hurt economies and funnel vast amounts of money away from areas that have more need. As much as the Gore Camp says the "science is in" or "there is no more need for debate" I just keep seeing more and more scientists step forward with alternate theories or different numbers to ignore the fact that people might be putting the cart before the horse. So don't label me bought and paid for because of where I work and I won't call you an open toed sandled hemp trading Suzuki lover. No matter how this shakes out it's too important to limit discussion by just labeling.