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Old 01-11-2024, 02:09 PM   #4712
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Originally Posted by blankall View Post
People underestimate the true chaos of October 7. Literally thousands of militants running around just destroying whatever they could. Certainly a few civilians were caught in the cross-fire of were inside structures and vehicles occupied by Hamas militants.

There's, however, zero evidence to show that the IDF was responsible for any significant share of the casualties on Oct 7 though.

Once again, interesting that there's so much effort put into this argument, yet no mention of the fact that about 1/3 of all missiles launched by Hamas fall inside of Gaza. We also had multiple pages debating the physics of gravity after a clear video emerged of a Palestinian rocket hitting a Palestinian hospital.
I don't know if people underestimate it per se, I just think it was over so quickly and the focus switched to the war on Gaza so soon afterwards that the matter hasn't yet received the attention it merits. That's not surprising all things considered, but my hope is there will be a full examination of the event in time, starting with the intelligence failures, addressing the military deployment before and during October 7th, and allowing witnesses to speak freely about what transpired.

But I would be surprised if such an investigation were to find that there were no civilian deaths attributable to the IDF beyond mere crossfire. I simply don't see how the situation could have resolved any other way than through a willingness to disregard civilian casualties in at least some instances. I'm sure we won't have those answers for quite some time yet though. Until then we can only speculate based on what accounts trickle out.
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