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Old 01-10-2024, 06:44 PM   #16468
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root View Post
Everyone talks about short rebuilds

But the moment real examples are brought up, it's nothing but excuses
I don't mind talking about Detroit, and their underwhelming drafting, an area which the Flames have done very well in lately.

How many of the last Cup winners have been on the backs of top picks obtained as a result of a rebuild?

VGK - 2023
Expansion team, no rebuild
COL - 2022
  • Rebuild Years: 2009-17
  • Made the playoffs mid-rebuild: 2009-10, 2013-14.
  • Top 10 picks and assets: Makar(4), Jost(10), Rantanen(10), MacKinnon(1), Landeskog(2), Duchene(3)
  • Top 10 busts: N/A
  • First rounders outside the top 10: 2014(23- Bleackley), 2012(traded), 2011(11- Siemens), 2010(17-Hishon)
TBL - 2021, 2020
  • Rebuild Years: 2007-2013
  • Made the playoffs mid-rebuild: 2010-11
  • Top 10 picks and assets: Drouin(3), Connolly(6), Hedman(2), Stamkos(1)
  • Top 10 busts: Koekkoek(10)
  • First rounders outside the top 10: 2011(27-Namestnikov), 2009(29- Ashton)
STL - 2019
  • Rebuild Years: 2005-08; Murky middle: 09-11
  • Made the playoffs mid-rebuild: 2008-09
  • Top 10 picks and assets: Pietrangelo(4), E. Johnson(1), 9th overall(Couture) in 2007 traded down to 13(Eller)
  • Top 10 busts: N/A
  • First rounders outside the top 10: 2010(14-Schwartz ; 16-Tarasenko), 2009(17-Rundblad), 2007(13-Eller ; 18-I. Cole ; 26-Perron), 2006(25-Berglund), 2005(24-Oshie *lockout)
WSH - 2018
  • Rebuild Years: 2003-07
  • Made the playoffs mid-rebuild: N/A
  • Top 10 picks and assets: Alzner(5), Backstrom(4), Ovechkin(1)
  • Top 10 busts: N/A
  • First rounders outside the top 10: 2006(23-Varlamov), 2005(14-Pokulok ; 27-Finley), 2004(27-Schultz ; 29-Green)
PIT - 2017, 2016, 2009
  • Rebuild Years: 2001-2006
  • Made the playoffs mid-rebuild: N/A
  • Top 10 picks and assets: J. Staal(2), Crosby(1), Malkin(2), Fleury(1), Whitney(5)
  • Top 10 busts: N/A
  • First rounders outside the top 10: N/A
CHI - 2015, 2013, 2010
  • Rebuild Years: 1997-2008
  • Made the playoffs mid-rebuild: 2001-02
  • Top 10 picks and assets: Kane(1), Toews(3), Ruutu(9), M. Bell(8)
  • Top 10 busts: Skille(7), Barker(3), Yakubov(10)
  • First rounders outside the top 10: 2008(11-Beach), 2003(14-Seabrook), 2002(21-Babchuk), 2000(11-Vorobiev), 1999(23-McCarthy)
LAK - 2014, 2012
  • Rebuild Years: 2002-09
  • Made the playoffs mid-rebuild: N/A
  • Top 10 picks and assets: B. Schenn(5), Doughty(2), Hickey(4)
  • Top 10 busts: N/A
  • First rounders outside the top 10: 2008(13-Teubert), 2006(11-Bernier ; 17-Lewis), 2005(11-Kopitar), 2004(11-Tukonen), 2003(13-Brown ; 26-Boyle ; 27-Tambellini)
BOS - 2011
  • Retool Years: 05-07, most of their best work was done with 2nd round picks. Boston also switched between being bad and the murky middle from the mid 90s(Thorton) and the early 2000s.
  • Top 10 picks and assets: Kessel(5)
  • Top 10 busts: Hamill(8)
  • First rounders outside the top 10: N/A
Boston seems like the only exception, with Vegas being a special case. That said, Boston still had 2 2nd round picks in 2003, 04, and 06, which helped them draft a large chunk of their core.
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