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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
I absolutely believe it to be true and it frightens the hell out of me. And I take the mullahs in Iran at their word when they say they want to wipe out Israel.
There is reporting today that only 70 or so Hamas fighters that infiltrated Israel on October 7 were hard core terrorists that had been trained for years. Apparently the remaining 2,500 or so murderers who committed the atrocities were recent recruits and ordinary citizens of Gaza. Which leads me to believe that a lot more than just Hamas want to exterminate Jews.
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Let's think about this for a minute.
If their goal was simply to kill as many jews as possible, would they have targeted 300+ military personnel on October 7? Wouldn't it have been more effective to avoid people that can shoot back and just gone after soft targets such as schools, malls, etc?
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Their own founding covenant sure makes it seem that way.
Hamas are a fanatical jihadist movement. Apocalyptic visions of the world being cleansed of its enemies are baked into the cause.
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Is this from their 80s charter? Why is that more valid than the updated version from 2017?
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16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.
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Further to that, they don't really call for the complete destruction of Israel either.
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20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.
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You can read the entire document here:
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...s-and-policies
Crisis inflation is the raison d'etre of Israel.