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Old 01-03-2024, 02:47 PM   #4559
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Originally Posted by Leondros View Post
No where did I mention they intervened to get Hamas elected. You will see I said "intervene again like they did to help create another player like they did Hamas." It has been documented that without the help of Israel, Hamas would not have been able to survive. It was the lesser of two evils with the PLO. I do not blame them.
What did Israel actually do to "support Hamas"? I've heard this argument many times. They certainly attacked Fatah, who until the PLO was established was solely a militant organization.

It hasn't been "documented" anywhere that Hamas wouldn't have been "able to survive" without Israel. Israel, in hindsight, should have stamped Hamas out right away. That being said, just randomly storming a bunch of mosques wouldn't have gone over so well.

Especially as the Muslim Brotherhood had denounced violence in the 1970s. It wasn't until the split that created Hamas that Hamas began promoting violence. And, once again, Israel immediately confronted Hamas as soon as it was created.

So how was Israel going to arbitrarily take out a religious and social organization that had denounced violence?

Edit: Israel didn't have an alliance with Yassin.

They recognized Mujama al-Islamiya as a charity, which they were, in 1979. In 1984, Mujama al-Islamiya, were exposed to be liars and hadn't actually renounced violence, as Israel discovered a weapons cache and then immediately began arresting its members.

So, once again, in hindsight, trusting the word of Yassin was a mistake, but there was nothing to indicate that things would go the way they did. Israel also didn't promote Yassin or help him, they merely stood out of his way for a few years before beginning a major campaign against him in 1984.

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