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Old 05-23-2007, 08:33 AM   #86
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Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald View Post
"Gore is probably the most dangerous propagandist and opportunist in the western world."

Comments like this just show how desperate and uneducated some people are.

Dangerous? Cleaning up the environment and trying to shift our energy needs from dirty finite sources to clean renewable sources is dangerous? Opportunitist? Based on the creation of the above management firm, most definitely. But I think it is completely lost on people that Gore has been doing this same presentation for a very long time. He did not JUST jump on this bandwagon, this has been a long belief.

"Let's waste billions of dollars, cripple the world economy in order to prevent something that is not even happening."

Yup, no fear mongering there. I must have missed the part where Gore says we have to "cripple" the world economy. How exactly is that going to happen? Finding ways to generate energy in a more environmentally friendly way and better managing the finite resources we have is going to "cripple" the world economy? Funny, but every corporation I have ever worked for has taken the exact same stance in operations. Find better ways of doing things, and get the most our of what resources we have. What a terrible concept to promote. Gore and co. are obviously off their rockers.

What's ironic is that some people make rediculous comments like the one quoted and think they are saying something intelligent. In a world where the a certain individual (and his puppet masters) has lied and cajoled his way into war, where BILLIONS of dollars a month ARE being wasted, and tens or hundreds of thousands of people are dead of the result, where a select few are making MASSIVE profits as a result, the comment just rings of demagoguery. But isn't that what this issue has shifted into? A chance for the monkeys to hurl their fecies and beat their chests rather than focusing on the base issue; our species doing what it can to halt the negative impact it is having on our biosphere.
Oh yeah, the bitter old man with superiority complex (unsubstantiated, unfortunately) strikes again, hurling feces on his own. I wonder why did you not even touch the quoted excerpt from the article, oh educated one? Because you have no idea how to explain it, that’s why. You give us the usual verbal ballast instead, empty words, no substance.

Gore is trying to clean up the environment? Or is he? Gore, among others, is trying to impose wide-range restrictions and regulations not because they will help the environment, but simply because it looks good him – clean, easy to understand solution that is not a solution in the first place – because it does lead to promised results. But the simple fact that it looks like a no-brainer solution to the masses is good enough. It gives him a dangerous, populist wave to ride on. Every step taken to further regulate western economy (of course, while India, China and Russia laugh and pollute left and right) the way they do it now – huge negative economic impact, almost no positive environmental impact is irreversible.

You would spend billions of dollars (not yours, naturally) to allegedly prevent global warming. OK in the best case scenario, if you succeed, the temperature drops by how much? Do you have a reliable scenario to show the drop in temperature that would directly result from reduced CO2 emissions? And even if you do (which I doubt, somehow) how do you justify spending so much money when the result will be, lets say 0,1 degree Celsius in hundred years?

PS Outstanding posts Azure, one of the best I have ever read on the off topic board.
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