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Originally Posted by Fuzz
I have never advocated doing the same nothing over and over, it's the Conservative/WR/UCP politicians and voters who doom us to that.
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I think its more than just the Conservative politicians.
Right now in Manitoba we have a NDP government who has a refreshing perspective on health care after the PC disaster the last few years. I have no issues admitting that, because I try not to have dogmatic political leanings.
But lets no kid ourselves, the previous PC government in Manitoba inherited a mess from the previous to their NDP government. Sure it wasn't AS bad as it is now, but public health in my province is just a continuation from one government to the next regardless of what party is in power.
And I think you can find similar situations in all provinces. Yes, some governments do some things better, but none of them create permanent change. For AHS gets created, then it gets shut down. Its just a viscous cycle that will be repeated forever because what Cliff said is 100% correct.
The right hates increasing taxes to pay for stuff.
The left hates the idea of a two-tier system.
But I think another big issue right now is that fact that we are wasting ridiculous amounts of money on things that are pointless. Hard to sell more taxes to someone when people see the stupidly bloated government budget with no attempt to cut spending.
To me it comes back to not being a serious country. Canadians play in the shadow of our American friends and act all superior because of our health care system, but that attitude has only led to the ruin of our own system.
Its like the frog boiling story. We didn't realize that the heat was being turned up gradually over the years, and now we have what is basically a giant disaster, and we can't even agree on how to start solving it.
And this isn't me and you agreeing on how to solve it Fuzz. I'm 100% sure we would agree on a lot of the same things. Start somewhere and start changing things. Make decisions, etc. Start with the obvious ones. Like immigration. Like funding. Like not just repeal AHS for the sake of repealing AHS just to prove a point.