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Old 12-21-2023, 02:03 PM   #12596
TherapyforGlencross
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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz View Post
That is exactly correct.
The issue isn't whether he engaged in insurrection. The Original judge and all 7 SC Judges in Colorado agreed he did.

Where there is some question from the court is whether that means they can keep him off the Primary ballot.

He got all the due process he deserves, and this will likely go to the SCOTUS so there's more to come, but how/what they'll rule on will be interesting, as they can't overturn the state ruling, they'll have to make a decision about how the 14ht amendment applies in this case or to the President.
Thankfully, this was hammered out when the amendment was created. See below:

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No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
Now, your last sentence was directly asked when the amendment was created (1866). See below:


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Mr. JOHNSON. But this amendment does not go far enough. I suppose the framers of the amendment thought it was necessary to provide for such an exigency.
I do not see but that any one of these gentlemen may be elected President or Vice President of the United States, and why did you omit to exclude them? I do not understand them to be excluded from the privilege of holding the two highest offices in the gift of the nation. No man is to be a Senator or Representative or an elector for President or Vice President—

Mr. MORRILL. Let me call the Senator's attention to the words "or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States."

Mr. JOHNSON. Perhaps I am wrong as to the exclusion from the Presidency: no doubt I am[...]
https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampag...3.db&recNum=20

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