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Old 12-15-2023, 12:41 AM   #4161
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There’s just as many “scholars” and “experts” that don’t believe it constitutes genocide. Answer my question from earlier. Is every human conflict in history where thousands of civilians have been killed (literally almost every one), an act of genocide?
Maybe you should “read” some of the “scholars” and “experts” that you disagree with so you can find the “answer” to your “question”

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And regarding “from the river to the sea” - you know, when Hamas committed their slaughter on 10/7, and worldwide rallies started almost immediately with “river to the sea” chants, even before Israel launched any sort of counter offensive, it doesn’t take a genius or someone with a bit of common sense to see what that chant really stands for nowadays. What it meant 50 years ago when it was coined is irrelevant relative to how it’s being used today.


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That’s just it, right? It doesn’t take a genius or even someone with common sense to see it. It requires someone far enough removed from both to willingly ignore how many people are actually using the phrase today because they’ve decided the phrase can only really mean one thing, and it happens to be the thing that justifies their hatred of innocent people.

The reality is, whether you want to admit it or not, nuance exists. Someone can use the phrase without meaning it in the same way a terrorist means it, and Israel can be committing genocide without every conflict in the history of the world also being genocide. If you don’t believe either of those things can be true (even if you don’t believe they are), then you need to educate yourself on what these things mean and the situation and it’s history. If you believe they can be true, then your arguments are farcical because you know they hold no water and you’re making them anyway.
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