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Old 12-14-2023, 02:58 PM   #4104
Leondros
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Originally Posted by Beninho View Post
The definition of Genocide is the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. Less the 1% of people being killed does not constitute as a large number, like I said, the total amount of Palestinians that have been killed since 1948 does not compare to any other genocide as the % of Palestinians killed due to the conflict is significantly lower than any other genocide and that is over a span of 75 years. If you just research the genocide of the Amhara people which has been occurring since the 1990’s in Ethiopia it is pretty easy to spot the difference between an actual genocide that gets zero coverage and this conflict where a genocide is not actually occurring. If Israel is trying to destroy the Palestinians why is 20% of Israeli citizens of Palestinian heritage? Why would Israel offer peace deals multiple times with a people they are intending to destroy? Israel is not committing a genocide, they are fighting a war with Hamas. It’s a war zone, civilians get killed, especially when used as human shields, and it is terrible, there are many other words to describe what is going on, a genocide is not one of them. Israel is not rounding up Palestinians and mass murdering them, which is a characterization of almost every genocide. This is an armed conflict and Gaza is a war zone. Gaza is ruled by Hamas, Hamas attacked on October 7th, hence the war. If Israel was truly genocidal they could have carpet bombed Gaza decades ago, but here they are sending in their soldiers who are facing casualties to limit the amount of civilian deaths. The use of the word genocide to describe what is going on demeans the word, and then it also makes it seem like people who argue against it seem non compassionate. I would like to see the Palestinians have a state in my lifetime, I would like to see Israel be left alone to live in peace as well and understand the only way for that to be possible is for Palestinians to have their own state. I can admit Palestinian towns were ethnically cleansed in 1948 and that the Palestinians have legitimate grievances with Israel. But It still does not make the term genocide applicable to their situation.
No, you don't have the authority to make up definitions. This is not how that works.

In the context of the definition signed into law in the 1951 Human Rights Treaty by more than 130 countries, how is what is transpiring in Gaza NOT genocide?

The pretense of war does not absolve a state of conducting genocide. This all started with the opression of the Tutsis in the mid 1960's. In fact, the Rwanda government itself was at war with the the Rwandan Patriotic Front which was made up of Tutsi exiles in the late 80's and early 90's. It wasn't until 1994 that the world classified the killing of the Tutsi's a "genocide".
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