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Old 12-14-2023, 10:57 AM   #13362
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Originally Posted by Bingo View Post
He had some great trades. I'd say he won more than he lost.

UFAs haunted him.

He over bet on a core.

Drafting was great.

Didn't have enough picks betting on said core.

Bet on Gaudreau and was wrong.

Since he left I think the biggest strike against him was the reveal that he didn't collaborate with his management team much.

I don't think we have to name a street after him in Calgary but the wizard drive by nonsense we see on this site if way over the top.
I completely agree with your summary above, makes sense. On the bolded, I wonder though, does any GM (or at least one that was around at the beginning of a core turn over) actually have option but to bet on their core? You kind of only get one shot as a GM once you start. Hindsight allows us say he shouldn't have, but really Treliving built most of that core through drafting and trades. You kind of have to bet on your core at that point, give them the shot to show you they can do it. If you don't, should you really get shot as a GM to build it again when it doesn't work out? And it's not like that core didn't show indications it might have it. I'm not looking to make excuses, but I also think that Monahan injury degradation was a huge blow to the chances or Treliving's core having a chance to work out. How much better would the Flames have been two years ago (when they won the division) if we'd have had actual Monahan as well?

Point being, I don't think we should critique him for betting on the core, not sure any GM has any other choice once they put the team together like he did.
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