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Old 12-12-2023, 05:47 PM   #13172
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Originally Posted by gvitaly View Post
I wanted to add to the top 5 pick discussion, so here's the draft pick summary from 2004-2019.

You can argue that I miscategorized a couple of players, but this is just to give the general idea of the types of players we can get with each top 5 pick and the probability for each tier.
  1. 1st overall:
    • Franchise Players (56%): Ovechkin(04), Crosby(05), P. Kane(07), Stamkos(08), MacKinnon(13), McDavid(15), Matthews(16), Dahlin(18), Hughes(19)
    • Top pair/First line (25%): Tavares(09), Hall(10), Ekblad(14), Hischier(17)
    • Second pair/Top 6 (13%): E. Johnson(06), RNH(11)
    • 3rd line/5th D (0%):
    • Bust/Depth (6%): Yakupov(12)
  2. 2nd overall:
    • Franchise Players (31%): Malkin(04), Doughty(08), Hedman(09), Barkov(13), Eichel(15)
    • Top pair/First line (25%): Seguin(10), Landeskog(11), S. Reinhart(14), Svechnikov(18)
    • Second pair/Top 6 (19%): J. Staal(06), JVR(07), Laine(16)
    • 3rd line/5th D (19%): B. Ryan(05), R. Murray(12), Kaapo(19)
    • Bust/Depth (6%): N. Patrick(17)
  3. 3rd overall:
    • Franchise Players (19%): J. Toews(06), Draisaitl(14), Heiskanen(17)
    • Top pair/First line (13%): Duchene(09), Huberdeau(11)
    • Second pair/Top 6 (38%): J. Johnson(05), Bogosian(08), Strome(15), PLD(16), Kotkaniemi(18), Dach(19)
    • 3rd line/5th D (25%): Turris(07), Gudbranson(10), Galchenyuk(12), Drouin(13)
    • Bust/Depth (6%): Barker(04)
  4. 4th overall:
    • Franchise Players (25%): Backstrom(06), Pietrangelo(08), Marner(15) Makar(17)
    • Top pair/First line (13%): B. Tkachuk(18), Byram(19)
    • Second pair/Top 6 (38%): Ladd(04), E. Kane(09), R. Johansen (10), Larsson(11), S. Jones(13), Bennett(14)
    • 3rd line/5th D (6%): Hickey(07)
    • Bust/Depth (19%): Pouliot(05), G. Reinhart(12), Puljujarvi(16)

  5. 5th overall:
    • Franchise Players (13%): Price(05), Pettersson(17)
    • Top pair/First line (40%): Wheeler(04), Kessel(06), B. Schenn(09), M. Rielly(12), E. Lindholm(13), Hanifin(15)
    • Second pair/Top 6 (20%): Alzner(07), Niederreiter(10), R. Strome(11)
    • 3rd line/5th D (13%): L. Schenn(08), Hayton(18)
    • Bust/Depth (13%): Dal Colle(14), Juolevi(16)
    • Not enough NHL games so far to even speculate: Turcotte(19)

Feel free to move players around between the categories if you think I got some of them wrong, but that's a good starting point. For example both Marner and Backstrom could be considered 1st liners, Hanifin a 2nd pairing D etc.
Really cool, thanks for putting in the effort on that. Really shows the importance of dropping down to bottom five if you know your season is a write off. Do that three years and you're likely to walk away with two really great players and a good shot at a franchise player.

And that's the ONLY way a team like Calgary is getting that elite talent. And when that potentially elite players is looking to project and up for an RFA contract you sell him hard on 8 years and don't try to save AAV by going less.
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