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Originally Posted by you&me
I actually don't have anything to contribute, and was only reading the thread in hopes of gaining some perspective. Some good-faith posters have asked some reasonable, seemingly genuine questions about what they specifically could do, or what more broadly could be done, and the responses amounted to "All of it. Everywhere".
I mean, I don't think Cliff's question was in bad faith; what laws or policies need to be changed? If no one can point to any laws or policies that need to change and it just boils down to bigots being ####ers, short of waiting for the old ####s to die off, how does that change? To be fair, your reply to him was engaging but a little vague - how exactly do "areas such as health care and housing often underserve(sic) the queer (especially trans) community", and what changes could be made to address that?
And you're right, it was a whataboutism. I didn't mean to take anything away from any of the posters here, but you have to appreciate it's a little difficult to swallow that in some cases, the "lived experience" anecdotes seem to have to be taken at face value, yet in other instances, ridiculed as disingenuous, or fear-mongering. To be clear, I think anyone with a different lived experience deserves to have their opinion considered valid, especially when it comes to things like feelings of personal safety.
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Nobody owes you perspective. If you genuinely wanted to gain any, you could’ve actually read the thread and you would have come up with multiple answers to the question (considering even “good faith Cliff” came up with one without having it repeated to him). You could have read the first post, or done even minimal research.
Instead you narrowed in on one flippant answer from someone tired of answering the same question one hundred times to people who already know the answer, people like yourself who treat it more as some argumentative challenge where they can flex random whataboutisms, argue against ridiculous strawmen, or do basically anything they can do avoid
actually gaining perspective.
You’re not here to listen or gain anything, so why pretend?
Looks up the resolutions around “parental rights” the UCP have passed at the last two AGMs. Look up the other what’s happening in other provinces like Saskatchewan. Look up the hundreds of anti-LGBTQ bills in the US.
Reducing it down to just anecdotes about “lived experience” is just evidence that you don’t actually care and are, yourself, arguing in bad faith.