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Old 12-05-2023, 06:35 PM   #134
CliffFletcher
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I'm not presumably calling for anything. I'm rejecting the idea that people who are lacking rights, freedoms, or opportunities should just "wait their turn."
I haven’t said anything about anyone waiting their turn. What specific rights and freedoms?

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…along with yet-realised gains like donating sperm,
A measure put in place by health authorities out of concerns for HIV transmission. It sounds like there may be justification for removing the ban today. But it’s not something that was put in place out of bigotry. Anymore than the ban on anyone who was in the UK during mad cow crisis giving blood is motivated by bigotry.

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reading books to children without people hating you,
Nobody has a right not be hated. We have a right not be assaulted or subject to hate speech. But you can’t control how other people feel about you. Neither can Jews or Catholics or Mormons. Some people suck.

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Sometimes, it's OK to read about the struggles some groups are actively facing and just... I don't know... listen? Internalize? Think, learn, gain perspective, etc.?
Good advice. But if it’s compassion and empathy we’re trying to foster, it’ll be most effective coming from people who don’t routinely express hatred towards groups themselves. We’re not going to hate our way to a better world.
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