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Old 11-28-2023, 03:09 PM   #811
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Originally Posted by looooob View Post
I've got a lot of feelings on this I guess as an Expos fans (and a bit of a HOF nerd, having attended the Raines induction)


I get in the end its just a cap on a plaque, and I get too that Dawson isn't a robot and has a right to his feelings, but certainly baseball wise (despite his MVP season in Chicago which was widely viewed as a very weak MVP choice- he hit a lot of homers, but his overall season wasn't great (wasn't even his best year in Chicago, and I think they were a last placed team that year??) his best baseball was far and away (in duration and peak) in Montreal- he was the 2nd best player in baseball likely (behind Schmidt) in both 81 and 83 and likely a 5-7 year stretch where he, Schmidt and Carter were the best players in the NL


his HOF resume was built on his MTL years, not his Chicago years. This isn't a Ray Bourque Aves situation but its also not a Macinnis St Louis situation (there too I think MacInnis was better as a Flame overall but that one feels like 60:40 or 55:45, Dawson MTL:CHI is more like a 70:30 for me)


I get that the money was poor and heck the big Owe ruined his knees so I don't begrudge his feelings, but the Dawson in Montreal was an elegant 5 tool centerfielder and the Dawson in Chicago was a breaking down/winding down RF
Unless the player really wants to go in representing a team, I think they could just do blank caps for guys who represented multiple teams in their career.

I agree that Dawson's best seasons were as an Expo...mostly before my time...you could also argue that if he was a Cub those years he might have had more Fame to edge out Schmidt as the MVP. So I get the bitterness on his part. I wouldn't blame Raines either even though for me, his best days were definitely as an Expo. Carter still seems to be the guy most loved by fans....but he won more with the Mets.
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