[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Lanny has made fun of Jewish history multiple times in this thread, sarcastically making comments like labeling Jewish history as fairy tales,

Let's get the facts straight here, because you're doing exactly what Bagor accuses you of, lying to try to make your point.

My comments were directed at YOU and YOUR CLAIMS of there being 3,000 years of history to the land, documented through your holy books. Your holy books are fables and fairy tales. PERIOD. It is almost universally recognized that the biblical old testament is a collection of fables and allegories meant as teaching tools, NOT an actual historical document to be held high and used as a document to stake claim to anything. You clinging to that as part of history that gives Jews rights to the land is what draws the comments.

while congruently not even understanding the difference between a religion and ethnicity, or the fact that the two can be intertwined.

Oh I understand the difference between a religion and an ethnicity. I challenged you that non-practicing Jews don't fall into that ethnicity as they do not maintain the characteristics of the ethnicity (language, traditions, values, or behaviors) to which you freaked out and called me an antisemite for the first time. You became even more unhinged when I suggested Muslims can also be classified an ethnicity - which they can/are. But both are clearly identified as a religious belief more so than an ethnicity. Try finding that "Jew" checkbox under ethnicity next time you have to fill out a government form.

;-)

Continually cries about me labelling him an antisemite, not for any criticism of Israel, but for implying my posts will make people dislike Jews. Now here we are again with him accusing pro-Israel posters with lobbing assertions of antisemitism when that has not been the case.

Trust me, your posts do exactly what I suggested they could do. I'm not the only one who has been appalled by your posts and found a level of distaste that drives them in the other direction. Same with Pointman. You've lost the crowd. Little tip. When you're clamoring for sympathy do be spewing hateful rhetoric that would make your side worse in comparison.

Originally Posted by Beninho

Haha yes that is exactly what I am doing. Maybe both of you can split a subscription to the Quds Network, i hear they are giving a discount.

See, helping your cause.

Two weeks ago I provided an op-ed piece by a leading scholar on genocide which detailed why he did not believe a genocide was taking place. This was in response to a poster (I cannot remember who) who made a post referencing a UN lawyer who claimed a genocide was taking place. Something you have asserted many times in this thread. I provided a counter piece by an actual professor on the topic of genocide. It was not in any way shape or form a pro-Israel piece, but made the argument that a genocide is not occurring.

Okay, again, let's not twist the facts here. YOU tried to pass the piece off as balanced reporting on what was going on in Israel. YOU misrepresented what the article was and got called on it.

Of course Lanny had a problem with this and even vaguely referenced the author may not be qualified to talk about this because he may have a bias, which is probably because Lanny believed he had a Jewish last name.

This is more bull#### wrapped up in your paranoia about people looking down on Jews. YOU missed the fact that it was an OPINION piece by an academic who makes his living from denying the topic. That's what made him biased and what made the article useless. How the hell did you miss that, beyond your regular delusions and paranoia?

Here's the post in question.

"Originally Posted by Beninho View Post
https://thehill.com/opinion/internat...ddle-east/amp/

"It is not a genocide, the displacements of people due to war and the death of civilians does not show intent. If Israel was committing genocide why would they be protecting citizens who are attempting to walk from the north to the south? Seems like a poor way to commit genocide. There are actual proper ways to criticize Israel without inappropriately citing it as a genocide.
The author argues the semantics of the use of the term genocide but does clearly describe the conditions under which a genocide may be take place or be identified."

To which I responded with:

"The convention prohibits certain acts committed with a specific “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such.” The forbidden acts themselves include killing, causing serious bodily or mental harm, “deliberately inflicting on the group conditions calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part,” imposing measures to prevent births within the group, and forcibly transferring their children to another group. So in order to commit genocide, one must commit one of those specific acts, and do so with the special intent outlined above."

Clearly Israel's actions in forcing Palestinians to flee to two locations "for their safety" and then attacking those positions seems to be indicative of an act of possible genocide. The exact same behavior took place in Bosnia/Serbia. Seems using the author's own checklist there is an argument of such atrocities."

Then you followed up with this beauty;

"You using Al Jazaeera which then quotes an organization that is incredibly anti-Israel is also laughable. Here is an actual balanced take on the matter that you will arrogantly shrug off. You are incapable of having a balanced discussion on this because you are so full of it no one can change your world view. It still is not a genocide no matter how much you wanna scream it."

And I followed up with:

What part of the disclaimer at the beginning of the article did you miss?

THE VIEWS EXPRESSED BY CONTRIBUTORS ARE THEIR OWN AND NOT THE VIEW OF THE HILL

BY MAXIM PENSKY, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR - 10/17/23

It's an OPINION piece by Pensky who is very much invested in one side of this debate. Yet you say it is an actual balanced take?"

That was clearly about Pensky's position and what drove his bias. No mention of religion or ethnicity. You projected that out there yourself. Blame that on no one but yourself.