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Old 05-17-2007, 09:30 PM   #152
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And I'll say it again...anyone who thinks you can prove/disprove God's existence is woefully ignorant to what they are suggesting. Like I said, the belief in God has been based around faith for centuries. If certain people feel that after all this time, with all the technology we now have, and all the knowledge we have acquired, that we can finally disprove that God exists, they are wrong.

Which is why what I said is not nonsense Troutman. If you choose to believe that faith is not your route, that is your decision. But you cannot hold me and my faith to your 'requires factual evidence before I believe it' standards.
You still have not answered why the god hypothesis can't be a scientific inquiry. Consider how much knowledge the human race has gathered about the universe in only the last 100 years. Now, imagine how much we will understand in 500 years. Or 10,000 years. Or if we are able to communicate with an older more advanced civilization. How can this inquiry be "woefully ignorant"? Many great thinkers from human history have tried to prove or disprove god's existence through philosophy, theology, geology, archaeology, etc. It is the greatest question of all. Can something super-natural, something transcendant, effect the natural universe without leaving fingerprints? [What if God is dead? Would the universe be any different?]

Either Jesus had a father or he didn't. The question is a scientific one, and scientific evidence, if any were available, would be used to settle it. The same is true of any miracle - and the deliberate and intentional creation of the universe would have to have been the mother and father of all miracles. Either it happened or it didn't. It is a fact, one way or the other, and in our state of uncertainty we can put a probability on it - an estimate that may change as more information comes in. Humanity's best estimate of the probability of divine creation dropped steeply in 1859 when The Origin of Species was published, and it has declined steadily during the subsequent decades, as evolution consolidated itself from plausible theory in the nineteenth century to established fact today. - Dawkins
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