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Old 11-20-2023, 05:47 PM   #2461
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis View Post
That's the thing though, almost every recent season has had a clear cut frontrunner or two by this point. Last year Mahomes and Hurts were clearly the top two, Rodgers was clearly the frontrunner the two years before that, Lamar and Mahomes before that etc...In recent history this is almost an unprecedented race in terms of volume of candidates. Talking about Dobbs and Russ is kind of a joke, but also not outlandish either because no one has separated themselves yet. We probably all laugh at the prospect of Dak being MVP, but if the Cowboys win that division and get the #1 seed then Dak is probably close to a lock at that point. It is wide ass open for anyone to win it. Winner tonight probably gets into favorite or close territory.

Like take Stroud as an MVP candidate. He has been much better than anyone could have expected, yet if Boyd catches an easy TD pass and the Bucs don't meltdown in the final 40 seconds of that game the Texans are 4-6 and Stroud isn't even a fringe candidate. Yet here he is, he'll be put as the frontrunner by some people. I suppose nothing sums up the mediocre state of the league right now as basically one minute of game action being the difference between a guy having no shot at MVP and being right in the thick of it.

I continue to contend that it should be Garrett, maybe even unanimously, if the Browns make the playoffs, and especially if they win the division. He's having an absurdly good season, without him they are 3-7 right now. Instead they can put out below replacement QBs all season and control their destiny for winning the division.
I was going to edit to add Garrett into the mix. Today he should be in the Conversation.

The two years where Rogers won MVP in 20 and 21, I would say that it was the last 4-5 weeks where he really grabbed the award in both years. He was public enemy #1 after the Covid vaccination debacle but played well enough to win it when a lot of other QB's did not.

Most top teams have 7 games and a few marquee matchups to make their case here. If Cooper Kupp couldn't beat out a QB two years ago...hard to see a WR ever winning. Although if Cleveland finishes 12-5 with DTR playing half the games and no QB elevates his play could be that rare non QB year. But I think one of Hurts, Purdy, Jackson steps up his play and grabs it. Hurts probably wins last year if he doesn't miss two games late.
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