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Old 11-16-2023, 07:20 PM   #393
Jay Random
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Originally Posted by Spurs View Post
Who said it was a universal rule?
Jason14h, who is saying that you CANNOT win the Stanley Cup in any other way.

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I never said top 2 so ask that to the person who did.
I did, and all he has done is double down on his initial statement.

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Where did I say you couldn't talk about it or that I didn't like it?
You thought ‘LOL’ was a sufficient answer when I said what I was talking about. Evidently you believed that I wasn't talking about the thing that I explicitly said I was, and insisted that the conversation had to be about what you decided I must be talking about.

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I only pointed out that we are clearly talking about the Flames when you claimed nobody was.
We are clearly talking about how a team, any team, can be built to win the Stanley Cup. Whether the Flames ever can or will get there is a separate question, which we have not even begun to discuss.

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So what? Are you ignoring the fact that nobody has said that a top 3 pick guarantees that you win a Cup?
I am RECOGNIZING the fact that nobody has identified a CORRELATION between a top-2 pick (which is what Jason14h insists on, for some reason) and winning the Cup.

I'm still waiting for someone to acknowledge that point.

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Again that has nothing to do with the point you made. If you want to change the point fine, but it has nothing to do with me not grasping things and you try to move the goal posts.
No, THAT IS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT, because that IS the point I made.

NOBODY HAS ESTABLISHED A CORRELATION. That is my ENTIRE point. Without a correlation, there is NO CASE. People are jumping to the conclusion based on nothing but the fallacy of survivorship bias.

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LOL is an argument when you are responding to silly #### like the Conn Smythe is the determiner of who the "big star" is and is comparable to the NHL draft. LOL
Really? So according to you, this is silly:

‘X was the most valuable player in his team's Stanley Cup win because he won the Conn Smythe trophy for being the most valuable player in his team's Stanley Cup win.’

But this is not silly:

‘Y was the most valuable player in his team's Stanley Cup win because he had the highest draft position many years ago.’

Give your head a shake.
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