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Originally Posted by Jay Random
Was there no cap in 2008?
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The team wasn't created in a bubble in 2008.
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You don't get to say ‘YOU CAN ONLY EVER POSSIBLY WIN THIS WAY,’ and then just dismiss the exceptions.
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Explaining why the exceptions exist isn't dismissing them. Vegas had a unique situation where the teams in the league clearly mishandled the expansion draft which resulted them getting talent in ways we never could. They started out with zero cap issues which also helped them add talent.
Ignoring this as though the Flames can do the same things is silly.
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So has every other team. That's the point!!!!!!!
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No not every other team, the Flames for example don't have a top 5 draft pick they made on their roster.
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He wasn't THE big star, or he would have won the Conn Smythe. Jason14h's damn fool theory does not allow for the existence of players like Marchessault.
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How does it not allow for the existence of other players? That is completely made up by you, and Eichel easily could have won the Conn Smythe and nobody would have batted an eye. Basing an argument on a vote by media is a pretty thin way to decide things.
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I repeat: He is not saying that you need elite talent to win the Stanley Cup. He is saying that it ONLY counts as elite talent if you draft it with the TOP TWO PICKS. And then he ignores all the top-two picks that never won anything, and the teams that won the Cup without having top-two picks. His entire argument is totally illogical, and it comes from ignoring this bit which I posted earlier:
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He never said that though. Not once.