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Old 11-16-2023, 07:38 AM   #236
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Originally Posted by Jason14h View Post
Keep wishing there is another way. There is not . Please tell me the Stanley Cup winning teams that did it another way in the post cap era.

Two out of 15. And we aren’t an expansion team so our path is 1/14. Not odds I would take but hey anything “can” happen if we just hope hard enough !

When did the Flames build a top team post cap era ?

Are you seriously considering two first round playoff series wins in the BT era “building a top team “

We’ll I will have to concede this to you then . If the goal is 2 playoff series wins every decade the Flames can absolutely do that again without a top 2 pick!

Strange that the argument for not needing to tank to build a winning team would be the Flames “success” doing it the other way.

Your guys argument for not tanking and getting a top pick is that it doesn’t guarantee you a cup. No kidding . Nothing guarantees a cup .

But your odds sure are good/improved - 40% of first overall picks in the 15 years after the cap won at least one cup . I would take a 40% chance at winning a cup over that players career on my team ( and it was surprisingly even higher for 2nd overall picks at over 50%) - granted some play on the same team even further showing that multiple top 2 picks exponentially increases the chance of a cup - The Oilers are the only team to not win with multiple top picks

Don’t let Edmontons incompetence cloud the fact it is how you win a championship .
“Tell me the number of cup winners that did it without a Canadian on the team. None? Aha!!! Then you MUST have a Canadian on the team to win the cup!!!!

What’s that? You say every team in the NHL has always had a Canadian on the team? I don’t understand how that affects my point?”

If you pick a criteria that almost every team meets, yes, winning teams will include that criteria.

All the teams that did it another way? St. Louis. Vegas obviously.

And there are other teams with multiple top 2s that haven’t won. Buffalo. Florida. NJ. NYR. Carolina (won a year after drafting a 2OA but got more later and didn’t).
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