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Originally Posted by GioforPM
I think what JR is saying (which is still not covered in your essay) is that there are far more teams with top 3 picks that haven’t won a cup with them.
I don’t disagree that it’s harder to get elite players via trade, UFA or later draft picks. But pointing at trans that won with a top pick doesn’t prove as much as you think because almost every team has had them.
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Why would i cover a stat ( in my essay as you call it - that was actually the statistics of cup winners -l) that he came up with that was never in my argument ?
I never implied or said having a top 3 pick from any draft on your roster meant anything - that’s a stat he threw out for some reason
It doesn’t matter . I agree the stat I never used or argued matter doesn’t matter ! Way to go ! Create a different stat and argue that stat doesn’t matter and ask why the statistic I didn’t create isn’t being addressed ! Logical !
And the reasoning for the non relevant stat “because others posters often throw it out there !” ….
What matters is having a star you drafted with the top 2 picks , because that is the only way to get to one’s who are good enough to win a cup
I find it very weird people even try to argue this . I guess being a Flames fan crates denial that there is some other way to acquire top talent and build a winning team then getting top picks !
And “almost every team has those picks” is both wrong when you look at the top 2 picks , and actually the only irrelevant part of the stats , because not all top 2 picks are equal . The Flames trading for a bust 2nd overall from years ago isn’t the same as drafting the next franchise player (or attempting too) even though both would result in “having a 2nd overall pick on the roster.
Hence - the very important distinction in the entire analysis - Having a top 2 pick YOU DRAFTED ! Not on your roster