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Old 11-15-2023, 01:54 PM   #3717
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon View Post
The trouble with long running 'liberation' movements like the PLO and Hamas is they actually don't want peace, they don't even want to win in reality, there were similar issues with the IRA, a substantial amount of IRA military leadership were quiet happy with endless troubles, they weren't trying to kick out the Brits, they and their UDA counterparts had nice little earners going, they ran prostitution, loan sharking and protection rackets, they had no skills that would give them a role in a peacetime settlement so they were being asked to not only give up their income but also the prestige/respect/fear they wielded in a conflict setting, the only reason peace came to N Ireland was because the IRA had a political wing who could see an increased role for themselves in a peaceful setting and because the population utterly rejected any further conflict

Hamas wouldn't last a month in a 'free' peaceful Gaza or Palestine where running an economy becomes the crucial skill set so they won't ever make peace, Likud to a much lesser degree also suffers from this mindset but they do actually have to provide prosperity and so cant just make a living from being at war, it helps them but it isnt the average Israeli's first reason for supporting them
Not going to get into it with you or derail the thread except to just say I wish you would just stfu about NI and stop pretending you lived through the troubles and know what you're talking about when you clearly don't.
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