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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
It’s no different from a lot of comments in the Russian invasion of Ukraine thread. Posters high-fiving over the graphic videos of people cooked up in tanks or blown to pieces by drones, Russians are all animals, etc. For some posters this is as clear-cut a good guys vs bad guys war as that one.
It’s not a healthy or helpful way to treat something as awful as war. But maybe more understandable in people who live in the region or otherwise have a personal investment in the conflict.
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I think people who were/are against Russia's invasion and ravaging of civilians and infrastructure in Ukraine are being consistent to be against Israel's invasion of decimation of Gaza's people and infrastructure.
Obvious difference is how some of us view October 7. I view it as a horrendous terrorist attack. I don't think you destroy civilians, hospitals and other infrastructure for the actions of terrorists. That's punishing a population for the actions of a few. I mean, I think most of us would think it would be batshat crazy to bomb Pendleton, NY because that's where Timothy McVeigh is from. Does Pointman think we should have killed the Unibomber's family because Ted Kaczynski liked blowing people up? Anders Breivik killed 77 people at a summer camp in Norway - deadliest shooting in modern history. Who got bombed over that one?
Again, I see consistency in my thought process because I was against the invasion of Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq after 9/11. Wanted to find the culprits; not just kill brown people.
A measured and appropriate response is also important. The Israeli government/army is completely out of line and has totally overblown their insane response. Is there a point they could go too far in the mind of a guy like Pointman? It really seems like he and his ilk have a 'kill 'em all' mentality. Even called them rotten to the core. Do you have kids, guy? How can a nine-year-old be "rotten to the core"? And maybe some can, but all of them? Israel is being unhinged and psychotic with the way they are murdering all these people.
I think it's weird how people bring up Jews and Muslims and Palestinians and Israelis as though one human life has more value over another. Isn't it just easier and more ethical to think of all these people as humans?
I don't know. If you're immediate response isn't to think the only rational first step is to stop killing people then your brain is wired totally different from mine. Even if you are an eye-for-an-eye sort of guy then Israel has more than passed that point. By that logic isn't Hamas owed a few more dead Israelis to even things out? (obviously I don't think that; I'm just saying if you think you get to kill 10 of them for every one of your dead then what's to stop them from having that exact same thought process and killing more of you?)