[Pointman]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I don't think there is any reason to be found in this conflict to be honest, I do not see any solution that will end this and I'm not sure there is a solution now that would be equitable or sellable to either side, any kind of free 'Palestine' will be tiny and poverty stricken and will have to rely on a rich middle class Israel for any kind of economy, Israel is also tiny, I think we tend to forget this when we bandy about solutions, it's about 20km from the beach at Tel Aviv to the border of the West Bank, 40 from the beach at Ashkelon, 80km from the beach at Haifa to the Golan Heights, I keep mentioning the beach because that's what utter annihilation means for Israel, to be pushed 10 or 20kms into the sea, Israel will never give up the West Bank because that gives them an extra 30kms of life, most importantly it gives then a river they can oppose the crossings of and some high ground between them and death, and lets not pretend it wouldn't be death, the end of Israel would be a slaughter of unprecedented numbers, they dont have the space to retreat, if they lose it is over on day one for all Israelis

This. And the reason why Israel holds on Golan Heights is because those Heights control the whole Galilee. From there one can shell Haifa and pretty much whole north. If we give it up, because UN so demands, there will be no UN forces to protect us from the annihilation. Much like there were no UN forces to stop Hamas on Oct 7th. People, whose borders are protected by oceans and the only neighbor is USA can't quite understand it.