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Old 11-12-2023, 06:01 AM   #3460
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Is everybody just ignoring the fact that Hamas has very explicitly and clearly come out, multiple times, since Oct 7th, to matter of fact state that they would

1) repeat the Oct 7th massacre over and over if given the chance
2) has no intention of governing the Strip in a way that enhances the life of the Palestinians
3) clearly has diverted billions in funds for creation of tunnels for themselves, and states that it’s the UN and Israeli responsibility for Palestinian civilian life
4) initiated the Oct 7th attacks to sow division in the normalization process that was going on between Israeli and other Arab states.

These are terrorists, plain as day, and self admitted. They are no longer a political movement where ceasefires can and should be negotiated, nor respected. The only way for Israel to “win”, and protect their own citizen’s lives in the future, is to eradicate Hamas. Talk of ceasefire is laughable and cynical at best.


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This is all true. I think the issue many people have with the Israeli response is that they feel it could be more targeted so less civilians are killed. But the only way that I can see a more targeted response is more infantry and less bombing. But that means more Israeli soldiers dead. On the one hand, it's their job to assume this type of risk in the military. On the other hand, they are all conscripted. Furthermore, it's hard to justify to the Israeli people why you put their sons and daughters in peril when you could just bomb your enemy, especially when that enemy specifically targets civilians and literally wants to murder every Israeli.
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