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Originally Posted by Izzle
Because these conservative voices are they loudest despite them not being a majority.
- Brexit... The likes of Nigel Farage lied and said that more of the NHS money will stay in Britain. The brexiteers will have more say in the way they govern. Experts chimed in and said that Brexit will be a massive mistake. The general public only paid attention to the lies told by the vocal minority. So Brexit passed. The British economy suffered massively. Callers call into radio shows saying "this isn't what I was promised. This isn't what I voted for." Well it's a little too late for them now.
Those same elements are behind the APP. There UCP is saturating the airwaves that this will be better for Albertans and it's a lie.
- Conservatives also say that the moderate faction will keep the far right in check. Haha, no. Take Alberta... "UCP campaigned on the right but will moderate to the centre". Nope, didn't happen. Take the US, moderate Republicans are now retiring because they are up against MAGA and Qanon types. The minority was the loudest and now the House has a pretty far right Speaker. Conservatives in Canada look to the USA for the right wing blue print. I don't doubt for a second that Pollievre will push further to the right if he becomes the PM.
So you have to focus on the right wing minority because the moderate right wing are scared to actually moderate the far right.
Still the question remains... Liberals are corrupt, the CPC push into the far right loonies. Is the federal NDP that unpalatable? Seems like the provincial NDPs are doing decent governance.
I think the CBC is fine. I enjoy their news and programs. I find that in the current media landscape, there has to be a source that's not beholden to private interests like Postmedia and such.
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I appreciate the response, man.
You’re right that people were fleeced on BREXIT, same as people were fleeced with Trump 2016. On both fronts the left saw the problem and focused on highlighting it again and again. Meanwhile the right found a pocket of disaffected/ignored voters who they gave a voice to, in the US case Hillary Clinton went as far as labelling them a ‘basket of deplorables’ and handed Trump the Midwest on a platter.
Conservative extremes are far less tolerated so any conservative politician will always say the middle will keep the extremes in check, which also means they recognize the problem and manage it. Sometimes well and sometimes not so well.
Liberals on the other hand aren’t allowed to call out their extreme faction because it is loud and very illiberal, zero room for debate or for nuance so instead some politicians like our current PM embrace it in a semi-populist approach and look down at those who don’t agree. Trudeaus French interview regarding the truckers said it all.
Regarding Poilievre, I 100% agree he’ll push to the right of this current government but I also think Carney as PM would push right. Trudeau liberals have embraced identity politics to the point that it’s hard to find a sensible candidate with a mind of their own in the cabinet. The only one who comes to mind is Dominic Leblanc and he doesn’t seem to crave the leadership.
Overall, I’d say if the left wants to regain credibility in the future the focus should be less on minority groups, of any kind, less of that group think which is characteristic of identity politics and become a big tent party again which accepts more than just the people who see the world their way.
On the CBC, you’re right that they serve as a counter to the Postmedia/private interest types. The major problem, to me, is that they’re publicly funded so it should be very very difficult to see which team they cheer for. It isn’t though.