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Old 01-09-2005, 10:42 AM   #39
Agamemnon
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Originally posted by Flame Of Liberty+Jan 9 2005, 02:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flame Of Liberty @ Jan 9 2005, 02:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Agamemnon@Jan 8 2005, 06:15 PM
Totally agree with you. Where we differ (polarize) is that I believe I'm born in chains owned by GM, McDonalds, and Microsoft, not the Federal Government of Canada.
How are you born in chains owned by GM, McDonalds, and Microsoft? Who`s forcing you to buy their products?

The thing is (I have said it in the other forum as well) - free market corporations have no control over their customers. Customers stop buying their products - they will go bankrupt. In other words, free market companies MUST give you what you want in order to survive.[/b][/quote]
Well, simply, because those companies own the Government. The only thing I agree with you on is that the Government is not doing its job appropriately. Where we differ is that you think that removing Government is somehow the answer, leaving everyone to fend for themselves. I'd suggest Government simply has to be redefined back into what it is supposed to be, a service for the citizens of a nation-state, providing security, legislation, and order through democratic means.

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Why can't you just take a gun and rob me of all I've got? Well, because you have no right to do so and I have a right to defend myself. The reasoning behind this is based on property rights theory. In a nutshell - you have a exclusive right to your body/mind, products of your labor and all resources/goods previously unowned. I can explain this theory further if it is unclear.
Soooo... good will is supposed to stop me from taking your stuff? The 'law' which no longer has any government backing (funding)? Who makes the 'law' now to say that I'm breaking it? You make your own, and say that I'm violating it? Sure you've got a right to defend yourself, but what if you're disabled?

Please explain this theory further, it is unclear. I'm not exactly sure how you enforce order in this new (lack of) system. Also, what happens to handicapped individuals, those who are sick, orphans, etc. Are you expecting all of these issues to be taken care of by goodwill? Utopian.

Your system seems to be a 'survival of the fittest' state. I find that somewhat distasteful.
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