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Originally Posted by Azure
The US often killed innocent civilians with drone attacks because they wanted their target more than they carried about who was with him, to the point where it became far too easy and resulted in generations of people growing up hating the Americans. Didn't see people marching in the streets of Toronto waving ISIS flags and yelling death to all Americans though, or the usual people on here claiming the US was doing it intentionally to maximize civilian casualties.
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Because the scale is pretty different. The Bureau of Investigative Journalism estimated that over 16 years of US drone and air strikes in Afghanistan, Somalia, Pakistan, and Yemen between 2004 and 2020, about 1-2K civilians were killed, including 300-450 children. They also estimated that the ratio of militants to civilians was about 10:1. That's really not comparable to what has happened in Gaza, even in just a month. If Israel was killing 1 civilian for every 10 Hamas fighters they killed, there would be no reasonable criticism. But that's not what's happening.
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We can argue about Israel's complicit behavior that breeds the hatred they are now dealing with, and I judging by your posts on this subject I would agree with lots that you say opendoor.
But when it comes to dealing with terrorists, Israel SHOULD be responding in force, with deathly precision and intention to eradicate every single member of Hamas.
Just like the US and others dealt with ISIS.
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Yes, the dismantling of Hamas and killing anyone connected with the attack is totally a legitimate goal. But as with all terrorism, they need to tread carefully to prevent exacerbating the issue in the long term. And given that Hamas has been known to recruit a lot of their fighters from orphans whose parents have been killed by Israel, even if we completely ignore humanitarian concerns, I'm not particularly optimistic that the way they're going about it is going to help their security in the long term.