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Old 01-09-2005, 08:15 AM   #34
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Originally posted by Agamemnon@Jan 8 2005, 06:11 PM
Thats all fine and good. But as soon as the absence of government authority becomes a reality, people will organize themselves into smaller political/economic units. Its what people do. Whether they be a community association, company, or commune, there will be organizations that will replace government types of service (security, health, welfare,). Also, once the government is gone (and its municipal security structure), why can't I just take a gun and rob you of all you've got? I'm using monopolistic coercive authority (if I have a gun and you don't) on you, isn't that illegitimate in the New Order? Who helps you out? You?
The important point here is that those relationships must be voluntary in order to be legitimate. If people voluntarily form communities (and I agree they most probably will) then its fine. However, if they force others to join them or pay them `fees` for their services (democracy) then it is neither voluntary nor legitimate.

Of course there will be people attempting to do harm to other people. People are not angels. But the thing is - you will be able to defend yourself legally. How can you defend yourself against governments now? Well you can not.

Why can't you just take a gun and rob me of all I've got? Well, because you have no right to do so and I have a right to defend myself. The reasoning behind this is based on property rights theory. In a nutshell - you have a exclusive right to your body/mind, products of your labor and all resources/goods previously unowned. I can explain this theory further if it is unclear.

Who helps me out? Private security service for example. You have said it yourself - those will most likely be created. Security will be just another good sold and bought on the market.

An article that explains this further:

The private production of defense
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