Harris @ Making Sense released another hour long episode on this war yesterday. No paywall for this one.
https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/m...-good-and-evil
The transcript of that phone call at the end is pretty chilling.
The most important take away for me is his shining a light on just how little outrage we see when muslims are being killed by other muslims. I feel like we're so used to ingroup fighting, that it doesn't even register with people any more. It has to be tribal to matter.