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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
By the sounds of it was pretty much Josh that had to go not as much as the GM but they got punted as a package deal.
Based on the information of the insiders the Raiders operated like it was still 2000, and he did a lot to hire in the scouting, developments, drafting etc. Essentially said he was modernizing the franchise to be in 2023.
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Where are you getting this information from lol. That's true if we were in the year 2012 today. Reggie McKenzie totally overhauled the scouting departments last decade to bring it up to modern standards and the poor drafting from the last regime as all on Gruden and Mayock. You can have the greatest scouts in football but if the two guys making the call are idiots nothing else matters. Ziegler didn't do anything to bring the operation forward and was fired because he was just as much a disaster as McDaniels. If you want to be a Raiders insider maybe you should learn a bit about them. Here's a good place to start as Barnwell discusses their mistakes one by one.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...legacy-rebuild
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Instead, the case for firing McDaniels and Ziegler is more comprehensive. I'm not sure a coach and general manager have ever gotten as many of their big decisions wrong over the first two years of their tenure than the now-deposed Raiders pairing. Everyone makes mistakes, and it's easy to use hindsight to correct calls, but many of the decisions they made looked foolish even in the moment. Running through them in chronological order gives us a brief history of the regime and why the pair is out in Las Vegas.
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