[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

So true. For example:



OK - so traffic I would say is a legitimate concern, though I don't buy the argument "everything will be the exact same as now, which is terrible, but with 3000 more cars!". Access can be changed and improved, and it will be, though I will admit that it is a tricky corner.

But for armchair nimby to start seeding doubt about the water and sewer systems not handling it, as if the professionals hadn't given it any thought? Ridiculous. Your taps will run dry and there will be poop overflowing into the reservoir! That's why we oppose this!

100% on this.
So many of the complaints I hear start with "Did anyone consider".
Imagine how you would feel if half of the feedback you ever got was "Did you do your job?"

There are also the 2 old standards of:

1) This is the first I've heard of this

• This is almost always either completey untrue, or said by someone who hasn't been paying attention in the slightest

2) They didn't listen to us

• Typically said by people who think "Listen to" means "Do exactly what I say", and don't undertand that the city/developer can listen to and understand your concerns, and still disagree/not do exactly what you said

People need to understand that if you want vibrant neighborhoods you need to let them be renewed, and that usually means change, and often means growth.

I'm all for densification but....I'm willing to accept that there will be some downsides for me as a person who is living in an established desirable community.