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Old 05-11-2007, 08:28 AM   #41
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Another argument, the atheist one, is if I can't find it or haven't been there, it doesn't exist, is pretty presumptious.
Why? If I see a hoof print in Banff is it presumptuous to think it wasn't made by a zebra or a unicorn? Is it presumptuous to be skeptical if someone claims they have an invisible dragon in their garage? I think you're presuming that an atheist "believes" there is no God in the same way a theist believes it, but that's not true at all.

Most atheists believe there is no God because that is the default position in any situation in the absence of evidence. Most atheists would gladly change their mind if real evidence came to light. There may be a teapot in orbit around the sun between earth and mars, too small to be detected, but not believing in it isn't presumptuous, it's reasonable skepticism.

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The final answer is if I have a personal experience, there is no debate. Words and thoughts can be twisted, arguments won and lost, but experience is king.
But experience can easily be twisted, misinterpreted, and manipulated as well. Our memories are not very accurate and are malleable. People often see, hear, and feel things that aren't at all real. Experience then is subjective, not objective.
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