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Old 10-19-2023, 11:19 AM   #2305
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The world really did get fixated on the hospital thing. Weird because you can point to Israel taking out entire apartment complexes where there is no ambiguity.

Were people quick to jump to conclusions on the hospital thing? Yeah, most people were. Seems we've pretty much settled on a munition hit a parking lot and there wouldn't have been that many dead and that it was likely a failed Hamas rocket. Works for me, but also works well for Israel since we're still "sputtering indignantly" (loving that diminutive expression - it's now in 'A' rotation for me) about it while they continue to annihilate people and infrastructure.



Different angle or same building? I don't know:



Oh, and just for funsies for everyone who is pretending this all started on October 7, here is Israel taking out a building two years ago. Probably weren't any babies in there, so I'm not sweating it:



And Hamas was disgustingly violent on October 7, those sick fks. A lot of blame to go around here. The people digging in on one side, though? I don't get it. And I don't get pretending this all started two weeks ago and Israel is some sort of victim here (aside from the Oct 7 attack, in which they were clearly and violently the victim), which is really where the majority seem to fall online.

Is it anti-Semitic to try to be more thoughtful about it? Absolutely not. Is it racist to be 100% against the Palestinians and not empathize with their perspective. Yeah, I'd say so. Will everyone here say, but "I'm not 100% against the Palestinians"? Also, yes, but in many posts here I'm not seeing any demonstrable empathy for them nor a meaningful distinction between Palestinians and Hamas.

Also, when have the Palestinians been punished enough for October 7? When we get 10 dead Palestinians for every one dead Israeli? For the people who believe Israel has every right to destroy people and property in Gaza right now...is there a point at which you'd say, "okay, Israel...revenge has been exacted and that's enough dead until the next flare up?" And also for the cheerleaders of Israel on this...do you think Israel's current violent approach will ultimately further the presumed goal of peace and safety for the region? Or is that not what this is about?
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