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Old 10-19-2023, 06:03 AM   #2259
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus View Post
The only way this type of crap is going to end is with this...

I sincerely hope you're not soliciting a nuclear attack on either Gaza or Israel.

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Or somehow we get rid of the incredibly stupid thing called religion that breeds tribalism, hatred and greed.
Religion is just a proxy. If not for religion, it would be another excuse. Humans are tribal and always have been. It's part of our DNA. It's also why I'm 62.8% sure that humans will not survive on Earth 1000 years from now.

What's really sad about this whole thing is that the so-called leadership of both Hamas and Israel don't want peace. Hamas wants to wipe Israel out or go to their Forever Happy Place trying. Israel has Netanyahu and a bunch of pseudo-fascist war hawks in power who believe peace means only one thing: winning. Leadership from both groups are propped up by external forces who want the opposite of peace for their own selfish reasons. Hamas is propped up by Iran, Russia and other bad actors in the region. Israel is propped up by the US, especially the right-wing which infiltrates Israeli politics (in particular a large right-wing voting block in the Evangelicals for whom this conflict is VERY much about religion).

It's easy to blame Palestinians and Israelis but they're pawns in this disgusting game between some truly sinister groups. The real blame should go to those who are pulling the strings behind the scenes as the average Palestinian and the average Israeli don't want their children to live in a state of constant danger. That said, individuals or groups that commit atrocities need to be brought to justice, but that doesn't address the root cause of the issue. It's more like a Hydra: cut off one head and three more pop up.
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