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Originally Posted by Pointman
You made it sound like it's Israel fault that Palestinians are set to destroy it. Like Israel could have used smarter negotiation tactics to convince Palestinians to abandon the idea of destroying Israel. The fundamental error with this logic is that it places onus on Israel to convince Palestinians that it's not ok to try to destroy another state. It's not. Palestinians are fully responsible for their own goals.
It's like if I decided that I want to kill you, for whatever reason. However, I decided to meet you in person first and talk about it. If you talked nicely and convincingly to me, you could have talked me out of my goal of killing you. But you were rude to me. So now I want to kill you even stronger, and I keep trying. See it's all your fault.
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It's not a question of fault, it's a question of practicality, Israel had a window to try and make peace and chose to invade Lebanon and sponsor a horrific atrocity against Palestinian and Shia refugees, killing hundreds perhaps thousands of women and children and leading to, you guessed it, the creation of Hezbollah and the almost permanent destabilization of Lebanon, it was a dumb move that Israel is paying for to this day, frankly even if it hadnt led to peace if they had at least stayed out there would be no Hezbollah today, think about that, no Hezbollah at all.