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Old 10-19-2023, 03:39 AM   #2248
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon View Post
Israel's great failure was in the 1980's and 90's prior to the rise of Muslim fundamentalism when they could have traded land for peace, Palestinians always wanted all their land back but there was a time when they didn't hate Israeli's, they were negotiable then but Israel invaded Lebanon and generally acted like a regional playground bully because the USSR was falling, the US had won and Israel was on the winning side in all the conflicts it has been drawn into
You made it sound like it's Israel fault that Palestinians are set to destroy it. Like Israel could have used smarter negotiation tactics to convince Palestinians to abandon the idea of destroying Israel. The fundamental error with this logic is that it places onus on Israel to convince Palestinians that it's not ok to try to destroy another state. It's not. Palestinians are fully responsible for their own goals.

It's like if I decided that I want to kill you, for whatever reason. However, I decided to meet you in person first and talk about it. If you talked nicely and convincingly to me, you could have talked me out of my goal of killing you. But you were rude to me. So now I want to kill you even stronger, and I keep trying. See it's all your fault.
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