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Old 10-19-2023, 02:51 AM   #2244
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No such thing as winning "utterly" unless you are suggesting genocide which I doubt you are and also wouldnt work. The more one side wins, the more extremism they will build on the other side...even if for some reason the averge persons quality of life would be better under the new arrangement. This isn't like east and west Germany. It's more like US in Afghanistan. It never stops and the second there is even a minor breach, Hamas (or equivalent under a different name) would bully their way back in.

Where is Jarred and Ivanka when you need a quick fix?
well I am not advocating anything, I will be honest I got to 'a plague on both their houses' point around a decade ago, I sort of feel for the average shmoo caught up in it but I am also fairly sure none of them want to find a solution that costs 'their' side anything, Palestinians are fixed on Israel going back to pre '67 but even if they did there would still be groups lobbing mortars and rockets into Israel and there would still be Muslim politicians gaining power by whipping up anti Israel anti Semitic sentiment, Israel would be 30kms wide and still have some version of Hamas vowing their destruction just across the border in Jeruselam every few years, the hatred is to deep now

Israel on the other hand becomes equally extreme and relies on their superiority in power being permanent, which it won't be, when the US declines Israel will find itself surrounded by implacable enemies as it gets weaker by the decade, how that ends is anyones guess and that doesn't even take into account some crazy ISIS kid exploding half a pound of weapons grade plutonium and 40kg of semtex on the Golan Heights or the West Bank going all 72 virgins with a conventional dirty bomb that leaves 20 to 30% of Israel uninhabitable depending on the wind speed
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