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Originally Posted by Red Slinger
Agreed. I think we can both agree that Israel does, in fact, exist.
Also agreed. And generally, it is the first responsibility of the nation to protect the citizens that they are entrusted to.
I don't know what you mean by cliche. You just said they exist or they don't. Israel is clearly in the 'exist' column.
Clearly no. I think the Settlements in the West Bank are an afront to human dignity and Israel should be sanctioned until they reverse course. However, that's not why Hamas attacked on Oct.7.
Canada is a settler-colonial, (could be argued) apartheid state. So is the USA, Australia, New Zealand, Chile, Mexico and, if you want to go back far enough, almost every nation that every was since history started to be written. We've accepted that these nations exist and that the people in those nations shouldn't be terrorized, murdered and raped simply because their nation exists. But...like I said, many Arab and/or Muslim nations will not be satisfied until Israel ceases to exist.
You said:
A- what do you mean by that if you don't mean that Israel shouldn't exist?
B- how? You seem to imply it's pretty simple.
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All the countries you listed have moved on from being settler colonial ethnostates to immigrant driven states with equality and freedom for all. There's no comparison between the 2.
To answer your questions:
Israel needs to move on from what they currently are to something more similar to what you listed above. It's totally acceptable that Israel exists and it's totally acceptable that jews exist within Israel. What's not ok is the current system that allows the complete domination of the Jewish population over the Palestinians.