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Old 10-17-2023, 06:51 AM   #1878
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You treat it like a special military operation. When you do a special military operation, you care how many civilians could possibly die. You care if bombing is "indiscriminate" or not.

The big picture flaw with this line of thinking is failure to comprehend what war actually means. Do you believe, that Ukrainians have a number of Russian civilians they accept as casualties, and once they reach the number, they will stop. No. Ukrainians will fight until Russians are removed from Ukraine. How many Russian civilians will die in the process, is Russian concern, not Ukrainian. If russians believe that they are losing too many civilians, they should retire forces from Ukraine. Same here. Israel will continue attacks until Hamas is destroyed. There's no limit on civilian casualties, because there's no such things in war. If Hamas believes that too many Gazans are dying, they should surrender. Until then bombing will continue.

Regarding indiscriminate bombings. You view it as an special forces operations or something. Like IDF is a SWAT unit that needs to kill criminals while not harming civilians. And if they destroyed criminals yet some civilians are dead, they failed. Again, this is war, not special operation. Gaza city is being bombed because it is enemy's city. Like Heroshima. Or Dresden. Or any other city that was bombed during the war. Bombing enemy cities is not a war crime. Of course it leads to civilians death. Yet it's a routine part of war. Hamas keeps bombing Israel cities as well, with strong volley on Jerusalem just yesterday.
You are assuming Hamas is a rational actor. They are not. They will not give up, even if every Gazan civilian is killed. Does that then make it OK for Israel to do that?
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