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Old 10-16-2023, 10:27 PM   #230
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Originally Posted by Ferarri View Post
At the end of the day the cap world is not forgiving. You simply can not have big contracts that don’t equate to value. Huberdeau and Kadri making over 17 million dollars need to be dynamic. Good is not good enough.

This was not a good game from either of those guys and the track record dating back to last season is underwhelming. It’s unrealistic to think things will magically have changed from last season as lots of work needs to be done, but with those guys eating up so much cap room is very concerning.

Regarding Huberdeau, outside of points he leaves a lot to be desired so he needs to contribute on the scoresheet nightly if we have a chance to win. This isn’t a Tkachuk situation where he can be effective even when not putting up points. Huberdeaus game will never be to stir up the opposition or put up Selke numbers. His pay is strictly based on point production whether scoring or setting up goals.

You simply can’t make the same mistake with Lindholm and give him 9 + on a long term deal. The Kadri and Huby contracts should provide enough sound judgment to stay far far away.
Agree with most of your post -- and I agree Lindholm probably shouldn't be signed, but not because I don't think he'll provide the value.
I actually think he's clearly the best forward on this team, and has the best chance at aging well with a long contract. However, the Flames are not in a position to surround him with the level of teammates he needs to make the overall team great. It benefits no one to have him signed up for 8 years along with the other 2 big contracts you mentioned above, making up a core that doesn't inspire fear in anyone. The Flames would still be mid for years to come, and Lindholm wouldn't be playing on a contender. I think it very well may become apparent as the season goes on, that the better play for the Flames is to move him for promising assets, even though he's a very good player. If you sign him but don't see any near term pathway to becoming a contender, what would be the point?
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